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SciScoop Is One Year Old – Hooray!!!

Announcements Tuesday, November 18, 2003 . This is a SciScoop post by Ricky James

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Let’s start at the beginning. Once upon a time there were two guys named Hemos and Commander Taco who wrote a web program called Slash. It allowed
a variety of users to submit short articles containing web links for
community approval, consideration and commentary. During the Dot Com
boom of the late 1990s, they became mega-jillionaires when the popularity
of the site they called Slashdot skyrocketed and drew literally hundreds of thousands of
member-contributors.

Another guy named Rusty thought this was a neat idea and wanted to do a
similar site for social commentary, not just technogeek stuff like
the submissions that were coming into Slashdot on a regular basis.
He wrote a similar web program called Scoop and set up a website called kuro5hin that
is a pun on his first name. Rusty = corrosion = kuro5hin, since
hackers often use the number 5 to represent the letter s to look
“cool.”

Rusty put Scoop in the public domain, and now dozens of people are
running their own personal websites based on his Scoop program.
SciScoop is one of these, a community site with a science orientation instead of a
social commentary or computer technology emphasis.

The basic idea here is that if you’ve got something to submit, you click
on the submit story link and write it up as an article of a few
paragraphs, preferably with scattered web links. Your submission is
then rated by the site Members and if enough of them vote that it’s
good enough, then it’s ‘posted’ to the front page.

Slashdot and kuro5hin are by far the biggest such community sites on the Internet because they were the
first. On SciScoop we have “only” about 600+ members and if a majority of
only 4 of them vote “yes” on a submitted article, it goes on the front page
automatically. Rusty’s original kuro5hin site has around 35,000
members, and getting an article on the front page there requires a 95
vote majority – since it’s a more popular site, kuro5hin has become more selective.
Sciscoop is still getting off the ground and at this point will put
just about anything up within reason.

Similarly, any readers can comment on our SciScoop posted articles by clicking on the
“post a comment” link at the bottom of the article -
usually after clicking the “full story” link first
to see the whole article. If they’re a member, their comments are
posted with their member name attached. If they’re not a member,
their comments are posted under the general pseudonym “Anonymous
Hero”. (On Slashdot, it’s Anonymous Coward.) Thus there tend
to be LOTS of comments from Anonymous Hero, but these are really many
submissions from many individuals, all under the same name.

The goal of Slashdot and kuro5hin and SciScoop and lots of other
similar sites is to become not a weblog or diary of a single person
like rickyjames but instead to become a “meeting place”
where MANY people come to express their views. These people can be
very different from one another, which makes for interesting reading
as they interact, discuss and even argue. That’s why it would be
perfectly appropriate for a Creationist or Anti-Abortionist or Health Rights Crusader or Genetically Modified Food Opponent or Alien Abductee to start posting articles at SciScoop even tho others might personally view such an articles as
pseudo-science or inflammatory. We sure wouldn’t mind articles about cool general interest science topics from Scientists and Scientist-wannabes, either. Sciscoop is meant to
a forum for EVERYBODY’s ideas and interests, as long as a majority of only 4 members think the submission is worthwhile. Of course, it can take a thick skin
to take the barbed comments by others that will attach themselves to articles that are more
outlandish or political than factual…

Community sites like SciScoop face a chicken and egg problem. Nobody
will routinely come to read them unless there’s interesting daily
content, but there’s no interesting daily content until lots of
people visit routinely. Breaking this cycle requires somebody to
come to the plate and prime the pump (sometimes for a LONG time) by
writing a continuous stream of articles that people will show up to
read. For Sci-Fi Today, that somebody was Drog, and for SciScoop it’s rickyjames. Obviously this gives the site a “flavor” of the
initial main writer, but traditionally as time goes on more and more
people show up and the mix becomes a stew instead of a broth stock.

That’s where you come in, dear reader. Whether you think of yourself as
a writer or not, you can be. If you are thoughtful and articulate,
those are qualifications enough. If you don’t feel yourself to be
technically inclined enough to submit articles (which can just be
uncertainty and unfamiliarity rather than a true
state of affairs; don’t ever underestimate yourself!), then by all means just post comments – your personal heartfelt thoughts, technical or not -
on any story you read on SciScoop. By reading what you wrote,
hopefully other “lurkers” who are readers-only at present
will begin to offer THEIR opinions – and so SciScoop will transition
from a news site to a True Community, and that will be a Good Thing during our Second Year.

19 Responses to SciScoop Is One Year Old – Hooray!!!

Sweetwind

November 18th, 2003 at 12:01 pm

Happy Birthday SciScoop!

You’re more than just a bullion cube, rickyjames. You have provided genuine meat stock, slow-simmered and well-seasoned. I will be coming back for many a surprise as the stew thickens. (Can I be the carrots?)

Continuing this analogy, is Drog a) A Pot b) A Soup-Bone b) A Recipe c) The Stove d) The Chef e) other (please post)

absurd p.s. in the course of researching bullion to find the perfect link for rickyjames, I made the astonishing discovery that if you enter “bullion soup” in Google and click “I’m Feeling Lucky”, the page that comes up is all about getting a barium enema. Not appetizing at all.

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rickyjames

November 18th, 2003 at 12:31 pm

Sweetwind now has dibs on being the official SciScoop carrot. Consumption of her SciScoop writings will enable clear vision in dim lighting of obscure topics – like barium enemas and graphic novels!

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rickyjames

November 18th, 2003 at 12:41 pm

…all of the above!!!

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Anonymous

November 18th, 2003 at 1:33 pm

But only if you change the horrible colors, and remove that misplacd label in the title.

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Jay

November 18th, 2003 at 1:39 pm

One year old and going strong. Drog and Rickyjames created one of my favorite blogs.

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gypsysoul

November 18th, 2003 at 1:58 pm

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Drog & RJ :-)

Okay, SW, since you linked to your punny math problem which totally zipped by my blond head, I’ll go ahead and request to be the pole beans in this stock.   Thanks to you guys for allowing those of us with SDDs (not STDs…  rather, Science Deficiency Disorders) to post comments.

More than anything, I’ve learned so much from reading Sciscoop this year.  Thanks for the facts and all the opinions to ponder.

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apsmith

November 18th, 2003 at 2:28 pm

By the way, it seems to me we (well Ricky and Drog mostly) post at least as many articles as kuro5hin does; at least on the front page it seemed to only be averaging 1-3 a day. Slashdot obviously does a lot more, maybe 1-2 dozen. And the format is somewhat intermediate; slashdot stories are generally short (1 paragraph); k5 stories tend to be very long. Sciscoop are a happy medium. At least I think so :-)

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Joshua

November 18th, 2003 at 9:35 pm

I thought it was funny when I followed the link to Sci-Scoops official inaguration that all it had for the first couple of posts seems to be by that of a guy who seems to be referencing happy hour. Boy, what a long way this site has come. Congrats again.

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Joshua

November 18th, 2003 at 9:37 pm

…nothing wrong with happy hour. Cheers!

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Drog

November 19th, 2003 at 6:53 am

Jeez, how did November 17 come and go without my noticing? I can’t believe I missed the big anniversary. Ah well, glad you remembered, Ricky. You should be very proud of what you’ve accomplished with this site. I may have started it, but it is your dedication–writing daily stories without fail–that has allowed it to flourish. Congratulations, and thank you, once again.

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Anonymous

November 24th, 2003 at 10:46 am

Congratulations on being up for a year.

Now, how much longer until you properly configure Scoop to allow browsers other than Microsoft’s offering to post comments? Some of us are tired of being unable to contribute without opening up software that we hate.

Don’t give us that “it’s Scoop’s fault” nonsense. I post regularly to kuro5hin with Mozilla, and that site has never given me trouble. Just fix the form keys problem already, and you’ll give me something actually celebrate.

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rickyjames

November 24th, 2003 at 1:16 pm

Somebody (probably you) send me an email on this a while back. I promise to do something about this by the end of the month. First step will be to email janra and see if she can help…

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janra

November 25th, 2003 at 9:09 am

This comment was posted with Mozilla… I’ve never had to resort to IE (I don’t even have it installed)

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janra

November 25th, 2003 at 9:41 am

Just letting you know I’m not ignoring you :-)

Your mail server (email.com) is rejecting my mail. Do you have another address I can reach you at, one that doesn’t subscribe to SPEWS?

/me swears at SPEWS and their attitude toward blocked legitimate email…

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Sweetwind

November 26th, 2003 at 5:45 pm

I have never had a problem posting with various versions of Netscape Navigator.

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Sweetwind

November 28th, 2003 at 9:58 pm

This particular comment is being posted with Opera “the world’s fastest browser!”

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Anonymous

December 1st, 2003 at 8:28 am

Might be a cookies problem instead, then. Let’s find out.

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Anonymous

December 1st, 2003 at 8:33 am

It looks to actually be a problem with the way that SciScoop handles anonymous posters who don’t enable cookies from SciScoop — something that I didn’t realize I had my IE set up to allow. In other words, this is user error.

Since the site does allow anonymous posting, this probably should either be treated as a bug, or as a quick-fix a note on the comment posting page should warn that cookies must be accepted.

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rickyjames

December 1st, 2003 at 8:50 am

…your second option has been implemented.

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