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	<title>Comments on: Mystery Weapon Knocks Out Abrams M1A1 Tank In Iraq</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sciscoop.com/2003-11-3-171841-084.html/comment-page-1#comment-5501</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doubt it, have you seen the pictures? it came in at an angle that would have had the A-10 flying at ground level! besides A-10&#039;s never fire JUST one round. more like 100!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doubt it, have you seen the pictures? it came in at an angle that would have had the A-10 flying at ground level! besides A-10&#8217;s never fire JUST one round. more like 100!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m from syria and i just learned that simple but dacasdtating large tnt charges about 500 jkg are detonated under the m1a1 abrams tank and flipping it. igniting an internal fire in the vehicle.

peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from syria and i just learned that simple but dacasdtating large tnt charges about 500 jkg are detonated under the m1a1 abrams tank and flipping it. igniting an internal fire in the vehicle.</p>
<p>peace</p>
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		<title>By: mhetland</title>
		<link>http://www.sciscoop.com/2003-11-3-171841-084.html/comment-page-1#comment-5252</link>
		<dc:creator>mhetland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a case of failed Technical Intelligence on the U.S.&#039;s part. &#160;If I didn&#039;t know any better, I&#039;d say that...assuming it&#039;s not a fluke, and for some reason it was a coalition weapon...we have several holes in our TECHINT of the Iraqis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a case of failed Technical Intelligence on the U.S.&#8217;s part. &nbsp;If I didn&#8217;t know any better, I&#8217;d say that&#8230;assuming it&#8217;s not a fluke, and for some reason it was a coalition weapon&#8230;we have several holes in our TECHINT of the Iraqis.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rickyjames</title>
		<link>http://www.sciscoop.com/2003-11-3-171841-084.html/comment-page-1#comment-4951</link>
		<dc:creator>rickyjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2003 03:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m leaving it in.  Jenra, for future reference, what&#039;s the best way to do spell check on Scoop articles?  I obviosly ain&#039;t usin&#039; one now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m leaving it in.  Jenra, for future reference, what&#8217;s the best way to do spell check on Scoop articles?  I obviosly ain&#8217;t usin&#8217; one now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SEWilco</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEWilco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;depleated uranium plates&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Of course, you need a military-rated iron to flatten those pleats out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>depleated uranium plates</i></p>
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		<title>By: Aulos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2003 05:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the Challenger II (now the fire control system works)? On another note, there are two further threats to the M1, and any other tank in theatre these being; HESH (High Explosive Squash Head) a very nice 120mm round whose head deforms on impact allowing the blast to be propogated through the hull causing sections of the inside of the tank to be torn off and thrown around disabling both tank and crew. The other threat is of course the A10. Small entrance hole, yellow metal - 30mm depleted uranium round anyone? And of course we all know the section on Friend/Foe identification was accidentally missed out of the Warthog user guide, just ask any APC crewman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the Challenger II (now the fire control system works)? On another note, there are two further threats to the M1, and any other tank in theatre these being; HESH (High Explosive Squash Head) a very nice 120mm round whose head deforms on impact allowing the blast to be propogated through the hull causing sections of the inside of the tank to be torn off and thrown around disabling both tank and crew. The other threat is of course the A10. Small entrance hole, yellow metal &#8211; 30mm depleted uranium round anyone? And of course we all know the section on Friend/Foe identification was accidentally missed out of the Warthog user guide, just ask any APC crewman</p>
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		<title>By: rickyjames</title>
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		<dc:creator>rickyjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, this isn&#039;t about science but unfortunately it&#039;s definitely exploring a lot of tomorrows that Americans have taken upon themselves.  Check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~irdp/ref/ref03.html&quot;&gt;this timeline&lt;/a&gt; and think about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.parapundit.com/archives/000878.html&quot;&gt;this review&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.city-journal.org/html/13_1_after_the_war.html&quot;&gt;several&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nationalreview.com/28jan02/kurtz012802.shtml&quot;&gt;excellent&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.policyreview.org/apr03/kurtz.html&quot;&gt;articles&lt;/a&gt; by Stanley Kurtz that everybody should read.  Saddam is just another tin-pot dictator blip on the Iraqi timeline, and I fear we&#039;ve got some really rough times ahead now that we&#039;ve said it&#039;s our turn to run the place.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, this isn&#8217;t about science but unfortunately it&#8217;s definitely exploring a lot of tomorrows that Americans have taken upon themselves.  Check out <a href="http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~irdp/ref/ref03.html">this timeline</a> and think about <a href="http://www.parapundit.com/archives/000878.html">this review</a> of <a href="http://www.city-journal.org/html/13_1_after_the_war.html">several</a> <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/28jan02/kurtz012802.shtml">excellent</a> <a href="http://www.policyreview.org/apr03/kurtz.html">articles</a> by Stanley Kurtz that everybody should read.  Saddam is just another tin-pot dictator blip on the Iraqi timeline, and I fear we&#8217;ve got some really rough times ahead now that we&#8217;ve said it&#8217;s our turn to run the place.</p>
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		<title>By: rickyjames</title>
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		<dc:creator>rickyjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...I agree that terrorists attack civilian targets and that anybody who shoots at an Abrams tank is (1) definitely not a terrorist and (2) probably suicidal.  However, there are definitely terrorists (by our definition)  operating in Iraq right now, they&#039;re the ones who blew up the UN and Red Cross headquarters, not to mention the hotel, asassinating the judges, etc. etc.  Now are these the same people who shoot at the tanks and helicopters?  Are they from Syria or Iran or Al-Qaeda or the Saddam Republican Guard or (my personal favorite) Saudi Arabia?  Who the hell knows, and that&#039;s a main part of the problem over there right now.  If the truth were known, I&#039;m afraid in reality its a bunch of different political/religious factions made up of Everyday Iraqis who don&#039;t care if they kill Americans, other foreigners, or other &quot;fellow citizen&quot; Iraqis that belong to a different sect or group or whatever.  We call that terrorism; they call it business as usual.  Don&#039;t expect the American government to own up to such a possibility anytime soon, and that&#039;s a real tragedy for both us and them.  America expects The Iraqi People to stop waving their celebratory American flags just long enought to hold an election, set up a legislative body with representation from all groups, and have them play nice as a debating society across the aisles while sitting on the largest small arms arsenal in the world.  Oh, yeah.  Our Illustrious Leader and his Advisors musta been asleep in history class when they covered the fact that the current Iraqi border is a line drawn by the British after World War I that roped in a whole bunch of different groups of people that want to kill each other and have no sense of nationhood whatsoever.  Too bad America is learning this lost history lesson through &quot;make-up&quot; work now.        </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I agree that terrorists attack civilian targets and that anybody who shoots at an Abrams tank is (1) definitely not a terrorist and (2) probably suicidal.  However, there are definitely terrorists (by our definition)  operating in Iraq right now, they&#8217;re the ones who blew up the UN and Red Cross headquarters, not to mention the hotel, asassinating the judges, etc. etc.  Now are these the same people who shoot at the tanks and helicopters?  Are they from Syria or Iran or Al-Qaeda or the Saddam Republican Guard or (my personal favorite) Saudi Arabia?  Who the hell knows, and that&#8217;s a main part of the problem over there right now.  If the truth were known, I&#8217;m afraid in reality its a bunch of different political/religious factions made up of Everyday Iraqis who don&#8217;t care if they kill Americans, other foreigners, or other &#8220;fellow citizen&#8221; Iraqis that belong to a different sect or group or whatever.  We call that terrorism; they call it business as usual.  Don&#8217;t expect the American government to own up to such a possibility anytime soon, and that&#8217;s a real tragedy for both us and them.  America expects The Iraqi People to stop waving their celebratory American flags just long enought to hold an election, set up a legislative body with representation from all groups, and have them play nice as a debating society across the aisles while sitting on the largest small arms arsenal in the world.  Oh, yeah.  Our Illustrious Leader and his Advisors musta been asleep in history class when they covered the fact that the current Iraqi border is a line drawn by the British after World War I that roped in a whole bunch of different groups of people that want to kill each other and have no sense of nationhood whatsoever.  Too bad America is learning this lost history lesson through &#8220;make-up&#8221; work now.</p>
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		<title>By: jdoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2003 07:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you don&#039;t like freedom fighters you can call them guerrillas or some such, but they are not terrorists by definition. From &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism&quot;&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Terrorism [snip] use of violence or the threat of violence, against the &lt;b&gt;civilian&lt;/b&gt; population&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Abrams tank can hardly be called a civilian target.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I personally have very little sympathy for Saddam&#039;s followers, but I have even less sympathy for bigots. If it makes me a member of a left-wing cabal, then I am a proud member :-).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t like freedom fighters you can call them guerrillas or some such, but they are not terrorists by definition. From <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism">Wikipedia</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Terrorism [snip] use of violence or the threat of violence, against the <b>civilian</b> population</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Abrams tank can hardly be called a civilian target.</p>
<p>I personally have very little sympathy for Saddam&#8217;s followers, but I have even less sympathy for bigots. If it makes me a member of a left-wing cabal, then I am a proud member :-).</p>
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