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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently took the Landmark Forum and this is totally true.  This forum is like taking the blue pill for your own life. Wow!!! It was amazing!</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 18:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who&#039;s only recently just seen Matrix : Revolutions, I must say I don&#039;t really agree with this conclusion. I suppose it has to do with your point of view but the closest I think anyone has gotten is the reviwer (don&#039;t remember where) that pointed out that the movie seemed to be more a socialist comment than anything else: Agent Smith is in a businss suit (i.e. business, corporate, capitalism), you can give people the neccesary tools to free themselves but unless they actually DO IT THEMSELVES, they will not truly be free.
 I think, mind blowing effects, music and filming aside, I was impressed with the fact that this finally managed to stay true to itself.

cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who&#8217;s only recently just seen Matrix : Revolutions, I must say I don&#8217;t really agree with this conclusion. I suppose it has to do with your point of view but the closest I think anyone has gotten is the reviwer (don&#8217;t remember where) that pointed out that the movie seemed to be more a socialist comment than anything else: Agent Smith is in a businss suit (i.e. business, corporate, capitalism), you can give people the neccesary tools to free themselves but unless they actually DO IT THEMSELVES, they will not truly be free.<br />
 I think, mind blowing effects, music and filming aside, I was impressed with the fact that this finally managed to stay true to itself.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty good interpretation.  I thought their was something funny about the parents and their child in that subway station but I couldn&#039;t put a finger on it.  I have to say that the interpretation at least gives some sort of reason and I think it sounds pretty good, enough so that I think I&#039;ll buy it.  Good job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty good interpretation.  I thought their was something funny about the parents and their child in that subway station but I couldn&#8217;t put a finger on it.  I have to say that the interpretation at least gives some sort of reason and I think it sounds pretty good, enough so that I think I&#8217;ll buy it.  Good job!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well done, i must say. lots of techinal knowledge put into good use, and in good combination with the philosophical issues the film presents. can i know where you derive this interpretation from? a source close to the filmmakers? or just plain a priori assessment from your mate and yourself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well done, i must say. lots of techinal knowledge put into good use, and in good combination with the philosophical issues the film presents. can i know where you derive this interpretation from? a source close to the filmmakers? or just plain a priori assessment from your mate and yourself?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This interpretation comes with my friend who is a video game specialist. We&lt;br&gt;
combined our analysis with our limited knowledge of computer&lt;br&gt;
programming.&lt;p&gt;
In my first reading of Matrix III, the ending was so obvious and simple&lt;br&gt;
that the Bad can never win the Good, Smith was finally defeated by the&lt;br&gt;
machine easily. The logic is not that simple. The clue is&lt;br&gt;
&quot;purpose&quot; and &quot;choice&quot;. Neo lives with choice, he chooses to go back to&lt;br&gt;
the machine city and fight for Zion. He is not programmed to do this,&lt;br&gt;
even Oracle is not sure about his choices. Smith survives with purpose.&lt;br&gt;
His purpose is to encounter and defeat Neo. However Smith&#039;s purpose was&lt;br&gt;
programmed by Oracle/the Matrix. Smith thought that he had overcome it&lt;br&gt;
because he has become an independent program - a virus. He has&lt;br&gt;
controlled Oracle and after all he has infected all programs in Matrix.&lt;br&gt;
Therefore, you &#160;have seen all his copies in Matrix in the final fight&lt;br&gt;
scene. The trick is the little girl if you remember the first scene&lt;br&gt;
Mobil Ave. Do you remember what&#039;s the name of the little girl&#039;s parents?&lt;br&gt;
What are their program functions? Her father is a recycle program while&lt;br&gt;
her mother is an interactive program. Remember also that they have to&lt;br&gt;
stay in the Mobil Ave - the nowhere place between reality and Matrix in&lt;br&gt;
order to exchange for their little girl&#039;s survival? Also, the important&lt;br&gt;
message is that no program can survive without a purpose according to&lt;br&gt;
the recycle program - her father. Therefore they must save their&lt;br&gt;
daughter by making a deal with the Frenchman so that the little girl&lt;br&gt;
will not be deleted. This is the core meaning of Matrix III - all&lt;br&gt;
program must be deleted if it doesn&#039;t have a purpose. A program remains&lt;br&gt;
a program if it only lives with a purpose. This is the logic of Matrix&lt;br&gt;
as well as its structure - the architect&#039;s work. Smith was borne with&lt;br&gt;
Neo, they are the polarity of the balancing equations in Matrix. The&lt;br&gt;
Architect (the white hair gentlemen, father of Matrix) constructed&lt;br&gt;
Matrix through calculating balance equations while Oracle manages Matrix&lt;br&gt;
by disordering it. This is the sixth experiment she made with Matrix.&lt;br&gt;
You have to refer this to Matrix II. Neo was a part of Oracle&#039;s&lt;br&gt;
construction, he is a program, a perfect program. But this is also a&lt;br&gt;
fatal one. In order to balance &#160;Matrix&#039;s environment, Smith was borne&lt;br&gt;
because of balancing an equation that &#160;disordered, which is Neo. Smith&lt;br&gt;
must come with Neo, they are the other side of a same&lt;br&gt;
body/program/existence. The stronger Neo becomes, the same with Smith.&lt;br&gt;
Smith cannot be defeated without losing Neo. Oracle cannot control Neo&lt;br&gt;
by deleting him to save Zion or the machine city because this is what&lt;br&gt;
she believes - freedom and choice - the only way to maintain Matrix and&lt;br&gt;
the human race. Neo did make a choice of his own. He knows that he must&lt;br&gt;
save Zion and Matrix by scarifying himself. This is also the purpose of&lt;br&gt;
his survival in Matrix. He cannot be deleted because he has a purpose to&lt;br&gt;
stay in the system. Smith has a strong purpose to stay in Matrix as&lt;br&gt;
well, he has to and be able to survive as long as there is an opponent&lt;br&gt;
in the system. On one hand he can infect all programs in the system&lt;br&gt;
because of his purposive existence, on the other hand he cannot be&lt;br&gt;
deleted by the system itself because of that logic. Finally Smith can&lt;br&gt;
have &#160;power to even get control of the system. This is just like when&lt;br&gt;
our computer is infected by a very strong virus and finally our system&lt;br&gt;
hanged and can only be loaded with a infected/out-of-control program.&lt;br&gt;
Oracle plays a very dangerous game which is &quot;allow&quot; Smith to get control&lt;br&gt;
of her and soon the whole Matrix was infected by Smith. This is the only&lt;br&gt;
way to end Smith. Once Smith has cleared everything of his way including&lt;br&gt;
his own system, his purpose will be finished. &quot;Everything has a&lt;br&gt;
beginning and everything has an end.&quot; Smith will have no purpose to stay&lt;br&gt;
once he has cleared up everything including Neo. The machine is able to&lt;br&gt;
strike Smith through Neo&#039;s body with the tricky function of the little&lt;br&gt;
girl&#039;s stay. There are only two programs which was never infected by&lt;br&gt;
Smith or will not be wholly destroyed with the defeat of Smith which is&lt;br&gt;
- the Recycle program and the Interactive program that left in the Mobil&lt;br&gt;
Ave. They are enough to reboot the system and recycle what is remain to&lt;br&gt;
make the system running in a &quot;normal&quot; way. This clue is so vague but it&lt;br&gt;
is the most important point of Matrix III. Without understanding this&lt;br&gt;
clue, the ending is simply any hollywood cliche.&lt;p&gt;
County Tam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This interpretation comes with my friend who is a video game specialist. We<br />
combined our analysis with our limited knowledge of computer<br />
programming.
<p>
In my first reading of Matrix III, the ending was so obvious and simple<br />
that the Bad can never win the Good, Smith was finally defeated by the<br />
machine easily. The logic is not that simple. The clue is<br />
&#8220;purpose&#8221; and &#8220;choice&#8221;. Neo lives with choice, he chooses to go back to<br />
the machine city and fight for Zion. He is not programmed to do this,<br />
even Oracle is not sure about his choices. Smith survives with purpose.<br />
His purpose is to encounter and defeat Neo. However Smith&#8217;s purpose was<br />
programmed by Oracle/the Matrix. Smith thought that he had overcome it<br />
because he has become an independent program &#8211; a virus. He has<br />
controlled Oracle and after all he has infected all programs in Matrix.<br />
Therefore, you &nbsp;have seen all his copies in Matrix in the final fight<br />
scene. The trick is the little girl if you remember the first scene<br />
Mobil Ave. Do you remember what&#8217;s the name of the little girl&#8217;s parents?<br />
What are their program functions? Her father is a recycle program while<br />
her mother is an interactive program. Remember also that they have to<br />
stay in the Mobil Ave &#8211; the nowhere place between reality and Matrix in<br />
order to exchange for their little girl&#8217;s survival? Also, the important<br />
message is that no program can survive without a purpose according to<br />
the recycle program &#8211; her father. Therefore they must save their<br />
daughter by making a deal with the Frenchman so that the little girl<br />
will not be deleted. This is the core meaning of Matrix III &#8211; all<br />
program must be deleted if it doesn&#8217;t have a purpose. A program remains<br />
a program if it only lives with a purpose. This is the logic of Matrix<br />
as well as its structure &#8211; the architect&#8217;s work. Smith was borne with<br />
Neo, they are the polarity of the balancing equations in Matrix. The<br />
Architect (the white hair gentlemen, father of Matrix) constructed<br />
Matrix through calculating balance equations while Oracle manages Matrix<br />
by disordering it. This is the sixth experiment she made with Matrix.<br />
You have to refer this to Matrix II. Neo was a part of Oracle&#8217;s<br />
construction, he is a program, a perfect program. But this is also a<br />
fatal one. In order to balance &nbsp;Matrix&#8217;s environment, Smith was borne<br />
because of balancing an equation that &nbsp;disordered, which is Neo. Smith<br />
must come with Neo, they are the other side of a same<br />
body/program/existence. The stronger Neo becomes, the same with Smith.<br />
Smith cannot be defeated without losing Neo. Oracle cannot control Neo<br />
by deleting him to save Zion or the machine city because this is what<br />
she believes &#8211; freedom and choice &#8211; the only way to maintain Matrix and<br />
the human race. Neo did make a choice of his own. He knows that he must<br />
save Zion and Matrix by scarifying himself. This is also the purpose of<br />
his survival in Matrix. He cannot be deleted because he has a purpose to<br />
stay in the system. Smith has a strong purpose to stay in Matrix as<br />
well, he has to and be able to survive as long as there is an opponent<br />
in the system. On one hand he can infect all programs in the system<br />
because of his purposive existence, on the other hand he cannot be<br />
deleted by the system itself because of that logic. Finally Smith can<br />
have &nbsp;power to even get control of the system. This is just like when<br />
our computer is infected by a very strong virus and finally our system<br />
hanged and can only be loaded with a infected/out-of-control program.<br />
Oracle plays a very dangerous game which is &#8220;allow&#8221; Smith to get control<br />
of her and soon the whole Matrix was infected by Smith. This is the only<br />
way to end Smith. Once Smith has cleared everything of his way including<br />
his own system, his purpose will be finished. &#8220;Everything has a<br />
beginning and everything has an end.&#8221; Smith will have no purpose to stay<br />
once he has cleared up everything including Neo. The machine is able to<br />
strike Smith through Neo&#8217;s body with the tricky function of the little<br />
girl&#8217;s stay. There are only two programs which was never infected by<br />
Smith or will not be wholly destroyed with the defeat of Smith which is<br />
- the Recycle program and the Interactive program that left in the Mobil<br />
Ave. They are enough to reboot the system and recycle what is remain to<br />
make the system running in a &#8220;normal&#8221; way. This clue is so vague but it<br />
is the most important point of Matrix III. Without understanding this<br />
clue, the ending is simply any hollywood cliche.</p>
<p>
County Tam</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Yeah, ithought matrix was the cleverest coolest movie made. I&#039;m black. They cleverly used diversity to spice up the movie, lord of the rings was awesome but African audiences were left feeling alienated as the beauty and culture is all eurocentric(they didn&#039;t just to put a black person in there)Seraph was awesome! There is fighting, action, philosophy and romance

 You raised some cool points. Just wanted to add, don&#039;t forget that the matrix also brings up the theorem that mind comes above and before matter (spirit before matter) this is why Neo all of a sudden could manipulate matter in the real world with his mind (When jesus perfected himself he could walk on water)
I&#039;ll shut up now Matrix was cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, ithought matrix was the cleverest coolest movie made. I&#8217;m black. They cleverly used diversity to spice up the movie, lord of the rings was awesome but African audiences were left feeling alienated as the beauty and culture is all eurocentric(they didn&#8217;t just to put a black person in there)Seraph was awesome! There is fighting, action, philosophy and romance</p>
<p> You raised some cool points. Just wanted to add, don&#8217;t forget that the matrix also brings up the theorem that mind comes above and before matter (spirit before matter) this is why Neo all of a sudden could manipulate matter in the real world with his mind (When jesus perfected himself he could walk on water)<br />
I&#8217;ll shut up now Matrix was cool!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering how the machines could give up so easily the &quot;power&quot; they have been using all this time, the Humans. But when I saw the ending when they were taking Neo, you can see him glowing, I wonder what that meant? Is he alive, and what did the glowing mean? Energy?!?! If that&#039;s so would Neo substitute all the humans as the alternative power plant? Just some questions I throw at you, maybe it&#039;s all bablings of my stupid mind, but hey had to say it :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering how the machines could give up so easily the &#8220;power&#8221; they have been using all this time, the Humans. But when I saw the ending when they were taking Neo, you can see him glowing, I wonder what that meant? Is he alive, and what did the glowing mean? Energy?!?! If that&#8217;s so would Neo substitute all the humans as the alternative power plant? Just some questions I throw at you, maybe it&#8217;s all bablings of my stupid mind, but hey had to say it :P</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t now if anyone noticed but the movie was called Revolution as in... The Matrix has made a full revolution. Something wich has a Beginning and an End... Not a Revolution as in when ppl Rebel against the machines, just wanted to clear that up.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t now if anyone noticed but the movie was called Revolution as in&#8230; The Matrix has made a full revolution. Something wich has a Beginning and an End&#8230; Not a Revolution as in when ppl Rebel against the machines, just wanted to clear that up..</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t now if anyone noticed but the movie was called Revolution as in... The Matrix has made a full revolution. Something wich has a Beginning and an End...
Not a Revolution as in when ppl Rebel against the machines, just wanted to clear that up.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t now if anyone noticed but the movie was called Revolution as in&#8230; The Matrix has made a full revolution. Something wich has a Beginning and an End&#8230;<br />
Not a Revolution as in when ppl Rebel against the machines, just wanted to clear that up..</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who knows what project concieved in the Landmark Forum spawned The Matrix? What do you know about this and how did you find this out? Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who knows what project concieved in the Landmark Forum spawned The Matrix? What do you know about this and how did you find this out? Thank you.</p>
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