Totalitarianism Thursday, May 27, 2004 . This is a SciScoop post by Ricky James
This Memorial Day is an especially good time to think about Robert Frost. You see, Al Gore delivered a truly remarkable and impassioned speech at New York University this week, and Rush Limbaugh has responded in kind. Every American should read every word of both…and think hard about the paths that have been chosen. There are watershed moments in history that affect our very civilization. I fear we are rapidly approaching such a nexus, a societal black hole. Worth thinking about.
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5 Responses to Two Roads Diverged In A Yellow Wood…
mtigges
May 28th, 2004 at 12:42 pm
Rush Limbaugh is an idiot, a shrewd idiot. But that his deception is planned rather than just the result of ignorance does not excuse his idiocy.
Here are some relevant sections of the Geneva Convention (read the full deal here: http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/91.htm). Very few of the detainees have taken an active part in any hostilities. They were picked up at checkpoints. (Read all of Rickys links.)
Article 4 defines a POW, the relevant paragraph follows:
Articles 13..16 in Part 2 are wrt the treatment of POW’s:
The purpose of the Geneva Convention is to protect detainees, among whom are POW’s. There is no other way to see it that the Geneva Convention has been violated. Contrary to Limbaughs assertion that the Geneva Convention does not protect terrorists, it makes no distinction between a member of a national armed force and an unorganized armed individual in the definition of a POW.
I feel passionately about all of this. I don’t live in America, but very near to it, near enough that its political landscape draws consequence upon my quality of life. Nevertheless, this site is not the appropriate forum for this information.
Ricky, you are a valuable source of information on this topic because you are passionate enough to dig it up for us. But quite frankly its dissimination here is at best off-topic at worst ignored. Let us know when you are also writing for a forum more germain to political commentary.
barakn
May 29th, 2004 at 10:15 pm
…. this site is not the appropriate forum for this information. …. But quite frankly its dissimination here is at best off-topic at worst ignored. Let us know when you are also writing for a forum more germain to political commentary.
You voted for it anyway.
But while we’re discussing it, I’d like to point out the last part of Article 5:
….Should any doubt arise as to whether persons, having committed a belligerent act and having fallen into the hands of the enemy, belong to any of the categories enumerated in Article 4, such persons shall enjoy the protection of the present Convention until such time as their status has been determined by a competent tribunal.
I’m guessing the guys in the naked pyramid didn’t get their tribunal, and they certainly didn’t “enjoy the protection of the present Convention until such time as their status has been determined….”
mtigges
May 31st, 2004 at 10:05 am
I think Ricky does a good service digging this stuff and compiling links coherently together. It may be because I share his point of view, but he seems unbiased in it as well. Presenting links to both/all sides.
So on the vote, I’d like it to be read, so I think I voted for it to go to the section page, no? It’s certainly not worth dumping.
yrrebnarg
June 2nd, 2004 at 2:41 pm
This is going to hang in limbo until it gets ejected, most likely to the “almost made it” bar, in which case it will hang around for about 20 times what it would have if it had gone to the front page. Does anyone else think that this is a bit screwed up?
Drog
June 2nd, 2004 at 7:31 pm
There’s supposed to be a time limit, but the variable is missing from our engine. We need to fix it. I’ll see what I can do. We will switch over to version 1.0 of Scoop as soon as it’s release, which should be soon.