Comments on: Doctors to Wash their Hands of Antiseptic Soap http://www.sciscoop.com/2005-10-31-6310-2517.html Scooping up science news and dropping it on your desk Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:03:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: NorCal http://www.sciscoop.com/2005-10-31-6310-2517.html/comment-page-1#comment-6811 NorCal Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:16:15 +0000 http://localhost/~arielschwartz/wordpress/sciscoop/?p=2290#comment-6811 It seems the use of these antibiotic products are becoming more and more popular in the general public. Has there been tests yet to see whether these product might actually be causing more of a heath risk? It seems the use of these antibiotic products are becoming more and more popular in the general public. Has there been tests yet to see whether these product might actually be causing more of a heath risk?

]]> By: http://www.sciscoop.com/2005-10-31-6310-2517.html/comment-page-1#comment-2551 Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:05:28 +0000 http://localhost/~arielschwartz/wordpress/sciscoop/?p=2290#comment-2551 I suspect that almost all hospital managers would be reluctant to even consider going antibiotic free, unless rigorous trials had taken place of the yoghurt solution. Moreover, this notion of banning doctors from antibiotic free hospitals...would that have to be extended to para-medical staff and others too. We could end up with a divided culture (pardon the pun) in which society became split down the middle with the pro- on one side and the anti-biotic on the other.<p> His ideas sound plausible, but like you say, a lot more work needs to be done, before such measures could ever be implemented without running the risk of virulent pathogens running even more rampantly around our medical centres than they already do. I suspect that almost all hospital managers would be reluctant to even consider going antibiotic free, unless rigorous trials had taken place of the yoghurt solution. Moreover, this notion of banning doctors from antibiotic free hospitals…would that have to be extended to para-medical staff and others too. We could end up with a divided culture (pardon the pun) in which society became split down the middle with the pro- on one side and the anti-biotic on the other.

His ideas sound plausible, but like you say, a lot more work needs to be done, before such measures could ever be implemented without running the risk of virulent pathogens running even more rampantly around our medical centres than they already do.

]]> By: Aegis516 http://www.sciscoop.com/2005-10-31-6310-2517.html/comment-page-1#comment-1579 Aegis516 Tue, 01 Nov 2005 10:55:28 +0000 http://localhost/~arielschwartz/wordpress/sciscoop/?p=2290#comment-1579 The bad-colony preventing effects of saturating your skin with good colonies of bacteria is certainly plausible, but his call for a cessation to the use of antibiotics is ridiculous. If you don't use antibiotics on your hands before this "good bacteria" dip then the same works in reverse. There are also virulent bacteria that are strong enough to displace or replace harmless strains. Viruses that one person has can also be spread via the hands and, unless the good bacteria also have a cleansing effect, would not be washed off by a simple probiotic dip. There are some holes in his argument and he would probably be better off to propose second study in which antibiotics and probiotics are used in concert. Though, that too could have a downside in that good bacteria that become antibiotic resistant (from repeated exposure through washing) would be able to share their resistance with harmful bacteria- and in the case of surgeons that could happen inside the patients body. Perhaps a study in a more controlled environment should be carried out before the reformation of any hospital anywhere. The bad-colony preventing effects of saturating your skin with good colonies of bacteria is certainly plausible, but his call for a cessation to the use of antibiotics is ridiculous. If you don’t use antibiotics on your hands before this “good bacteria” dip then the same works in reverse. There are also virulent bacteria that are strong enough to displace or replace harmless strains. Viruses that one person has can also be spread via the hands and, unless the good bacteria also have a cleansing effect, would not be washed off by a simple probiotic dip. There are some holes in his argument and he would probably be better off to propose second study in which antibiotics and probiotics are used in concert. Though, that too could have a downside in that good bacteria that become antibiotic resistant (from repeated exposure through washing) would be able to share their resistance with harmful bacteria- and in the case of surgeons that could happen inside the patients body. Perhaps a study in a more controlled environment should be carried out before the reformation of any hospital anywhere.

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