Aerospace Wednesday, August 3, 2005 . This is a SciScoop post by Wayne Goode
When Dr. Mike Griffin, the new NASA Administrator, took charge of NASA, he accelerated the schedule for the shuttle replacement to reduce the time between the retirement of the Shuttle and the launch of its replacement. He ordered this study as part of the plan to select the design earlier than the previous schedule.
The New York Times (free registration required) has a good overview article and Spaceref has a more detailed article. NASA Watch has some commentary.
In summary, the designs use SRBs and SSMEs from the shuttle with the payload, a new Crew Exploration Vehicle (CEV), in an Apollo-like configuration. They also call for two similar but different systems, one for crewed missions and one for cargo.
For the last several years, I have worked on projects that looked at technology choices for the Shuttle replacement: Second Generation RLV, Third Generation RLV, Spaceliner 100, etc. I know some people who did work for this current study. However, since my job has been to write software for the people who did the studies, I don’t know much about it first hand. However, I learn quite a bit from the system engineers and Subject Matter Experts I work with.
What strikes me most about these new designs is there simplicity. We had studied technologies such as Hall Thrusters, Nuclear Thermal, Pulsed Denotation, TBCC airbreather, RBCC, etc. Some of these were near-term options, some were for later, I’m not sure which. (Like I said, I’m not a rocket scientist, just a software engineer.) However, the new designs don’t use any of new technologies. They use current engines.
NASA has also learned some lessons from the Shuttle. A RLV (reusable Launch Vehicle) sounds good, but unless you get the flight rates up high enough, it is actually more expensive. Also, these new designs put the payloads on top, similar to Apollo. We have seen that there is a risk of damage to the payload by debris when it is not on top.
Also, separating the cargo launches to a different vehicle seems to be an excellent idea. It should reduce the cost of launching cargo significantly. There is no need to have a human-rated system to launch cargo.
From what I know, I think these are good designs. They reduce development cost and increase reliability by using existing technology where they can (engines) and new technology where needed (the CEV). Also, they reduce the “space gap” that will be left by the Shuttle’s retirement.
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4 Responses to NASA’s Shuttle Replacement Combines Shuttle and Apollo Concepts
apsmith
August 3rd, 2005 at 12:31 pm
Wayne, do you know anything about the shuttle engines? The new vehicles look like they’re making them expendable (for the cargo launcher) rather than re-usable – would that mean any sort of re-design, or just use them as they are? It’ll be a bit of a ramp up to start making them on a production line again, won’t it?
chad
August 3rd, 2005 at 1:47 pm
NYT articles have a nasty habit of turning into pay-me-money-to-read-me articles after a period of time. But there is a way to circumvent the payment if you know the original link to the article. If the article in the topic above becomes payment accessible only, try this link instead.
Ah yes, the NYT web site is the bane of the slashdotter’s existence. If the mandatory registration bothers you, try bugmenot, although I’ve never actually been able to get it to work at the NYT site—maybe they’re smart enough to have someone go through the logins every day and disable them. If you use Firefox, the bugmenot functionality is automated in an extension. Don’t have Firefox? You’re definitely missing out on a much easier web browsing experience.
Bill McGonigle
August 3rd, 2005 at 4:41 pm
Here’s one with a link to the builder’s site.
Wayne Goode
August 4th, 2005 at 11:34 am
I don’t know that much about the engines, I just work with people who know about engines. I haven’t heard anyone comment on the design yet.
The other engines I mentioned in the article are generally good ideas, it is just that, as far as I can tell, none are ready to be used yet.
One of the measures NASA uses for technologies is the TRL (Technology Readiness Level.) I think the engines from the Shuttle are rated at 9, the highest level, since they have been proven in actual flight. The other engines are at lower TRLs and will need to be developed. The TRL level of the Hall Thruster, for example, is 3 according to this report.
I think the replacement for the new design, which might be 20-30 years from now, will use one of these new engine technologies. However, by then, it may not be NASA that develops the system, but private industry. I heard one person comment a while back that this vehicle design might be NASA’s last.
The cost of DDT&E (Design, Development, Test & Evaluation) for a new engine is probably more than you would think. A cost analyst I work with said the cost to develop a new engine is $1 billion dollars.