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SciScoop Science News Forum - new owner David Bradley
By rickyjames, Section News
Posted on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 11:51:05 PM PST

Announcements NEWS UPDATE: Science Writer David Bradley recently assumed overall editorial control of the SciScoop Science News Forum. The science blogging community has now passed the 2000th story thanks in part to the continued support from its membership and the foundations provided by Bradley's predecessor rickyjames.

Well, this is a story I've started a few times and always spiked it before I finished it, but not this time.  Folks, let's face facts.  I've posted just over 1200 submissions to SciScoop in the past two and a half years, almost 2/3 of everything that's been submitted. In many ways it's been more fun than a barrel of monkeys. However, I've never intended for this site to be my personal blog. Instead, I've tried to share those things I've come across that sparked a flicker of wonder within me. I've always hoped my efforts would jump-start wider submissions from and interactions among a growing science-oriented community. Unfortunately that just hasn't happened.  Only around 5% or so of our total membership comes to the site in any given 30 day period and even fewer post anything when they get here - stories or comments.  We do get a few hundred people a day that are drawn in mostly by our headline block over on Slashdot and K5.  However, there's really not much on SciScoop that can't be gotten elsewhere - particularly from that long list of science source links that loads up on the left side of every SciScoop front page.    

Now I find I'm scraping the bottom of my barrel (see: "slush fund"). The time required to put up good content day after day on SciScoop is a precious commodity that I seem to have less and less of these days.  That, coupled with my general feeling that I've given this site my best shot for a quarter decade now, leads me to feel in my gut that it's time to move on and put my primary focus on some other projects.  

Maybe my moving on could be a good thing not only for me but for SciScoop as well.  Rather than just shut down this site cold, I'd be more than happy to turn it over lock, stock and barrel to a science-oriented somebody who wanted to put their own stamp on it.  I'd turn over the domain name for free; for a mere $25-$30 or so per month in server fees to ScoopHost you too could be somebody that buys electrons by the barrel.  Interested?  Drop me a line.  

Fortunately, opportunities to drink from the science firehose still abound. To get your daily dose of science press release headlines, bookmark and click on over to EurekAlert and ScienceDaily. For ongoing mainstream-media science news, I highly recommend the various "Moreover" science topic feeds that can be accessed for free at HeadlineScanner. There's plenty of individual science oriented blogs to be found out there in cyberspace; explore til you find one that's right for you. For quirky, cool blogs on physics (the quest to understand truth), check out Preposterous Universe and Not Even Wrong; if your thing is biology (the quest to understand beauty), try The Mad Scientist and Biology News. For rants with a science slant, try Bitch PhD. Most of these accept reader posted comments and have lists of front-page cross-links to lead you ever deeper into the blogosphere. To be a part of a community rather than someone's solo blog effort, support Wikipedia and WikiNews.

And always remember, a dream goes on forever.

Update [2005-3-30 14:29:57 by rickyjames]:: A deal has been struck. SciScoop is in very good hands. Stay tuned.

SciScoop Science News Forum - new owner David Bradley | 30 comments (30 topical, 0 hidden)

Upon Reflection ... An Update (5.00 / 2) (#16)
by rickyjames on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:37:58 AM PST
This has been a surprisingly emotional situation for me.  I truly appreciate all of the comments here, more than I can express to all of you.  I love this website and what it stands for - ongoing highlighting of the most intriguing and wonderous items of all the science news out there.  
At the same time, folks, I just can't go on being the Sole Contributor Forever; it's just not in the cards and it's gotta end sometime, someday.  Unfortunately, that day has come.  I'm not going on some kind of a protest strike and I'm not trying to throw a temper tantrum, I'm just trying to face the the reality of the situation here.  And if somehow something good could come of this turmoil to continue the site, and perhaps even improve it, nobody would be happier than me...

So here's where things stand as of Wed. morning.  There have been three tentative expressions of interest about taking over SciScoop by A. and M. and W (no, not THAT W).  Of the three A. seems extremely well qualified with the other two as reasonably strong possibilities as well.  To sweeten the pot I have offered to A. that I would continue to write 5 of 15 stories per week on a scheduled basis for a year provided he or a team of his choosing would do the other 10 per week at a level of depth of my current routine stories.  Plus, they get total creative control of the site.  

For the record, I hereby make the same offer to anybody else out there thinking about taking the plunge to take over SciScoop - I'll stay on as a "part-time" scheduled writer at a one-third total submission level to lighten the start up burden while you get your act and team together, and you get total creative control.

Folks, anybody that's out there that wants to step up to the plate and sign up for a scheduled-once-a-week-for-a-year submission to save this site, now is the time to do it and your generosity might very well make the difference in continuation or folding.  For those who think you can't write a SciScoop article, you're wrong.  You can.  Here's the Seven Step Plan to write a SciScoop article in 15 or 20 minutes that I outlined in one of the letters to the people considering taking over this site:

1. Go to Eurekalert and Science Daily and get the most interesting
press release stories that had been posted there since my
last visit, usually the day before.  Because they're press releases,
they're not copyrighted and can thus be cut-and-pasted verbatim.  If
possible I'd follow the link in the EA or SD story back to the
original press release on some particular university or national lab
site just to avoid linking directly back to EA and SD for story
credit any more than I had to.

2. Copy the press release into the SciScoop submit story form, with
four or five paragraphs max in the top part and the rest in the
bottom part.  I'd try to pick a logical story break point between the
two blocks and sometimes reshuffle the paragraphs to get the more
interesting paragrahs or quotes up front early in the story.

3. Those press releases are big on boring long titles and university
affiliations and I'd frequently cut those out or put them towards the
end of the story.  I'd find the first time the story mentions a short
name like * "blah blah blah", Smith said *  and insert
"researcher John" in front of the Smith to keep the story tight.  
Tight and punchy, juicy quote just before the break to the rest of
the story.  You never go wrong with that approach.

4. At the bottom of the story, add "From a XYZ press release" and
throw in a link to the press release itself on the XYZ text.  ALWAYS
CREDIT OTHER PEOPLE'S WORDS.

5. Add links.  THis is the value-added part of SciSCoop.  I would
find three or four key phrases in the front end story part like the
researcher's name, a specific important noun or phrase, some silly
little add on phrase in the quote ... and plug them into google.  
Usually in the first ten google references would be something
worthwhile that would be an appropriate "click here for more info"
kind of link that could be woven into the story - the researcher's
lab home page, another news source for the story being reported with
additional info, similar work by others, key background info.  
Wikipedia was antother good source for links like this along with
google.

6. Optionally, add a sentence or two up front in your own words
that's some kind of lead in to the main story - humorous, thoughtful,
off the wall, free association - preferably with links of your own.  
Local color, you see.

7. Always put in the wackiest title you can think of that's still
true to the story.  This is very important because that title is
what's going to draw hundreds of people to SciSCoop from Slashdot and
K5 and elsewhere when the see it in the RSS feed.

Voila.  Instant SciScoop story.  Me doing 15 of these a week chews up around eight to ten hours of my week I can no longer afford to spend in this way. A pool of volunteers signing up to do one of these a week could keep the site going.  Even better, I could have some "free" time to write original essays and stories instead of grinding out these pre-fab press release stories which are OK but are the equivalent of science fast food instead of steak.

Well, we'll see what happens.  I'll keep everybody posted.  And again, thanks for all your support and kind words.

Enjoy reading this SciScoop story? Here's a thousand more.




Sigh... (4.00 / 1) (#1)
by chad on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 11:28:34 PM PST

I don't post many news items because SciScoop *is* my primary source of science news on the 'Net. I also check out Slashdot Science and New Scientist, but I figure everyone else here reads those—so there's no point in duplicating them here.

But this is your decision to make, not mine, and I respect it. With that said, can you suggest another site that can replace SciScoop in my daily web surfing?


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You made a good run of it, Ricky (4.00 / 1) (#2)
by Drog on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 01:52:49 AM PST
Writing 1200 stories over two and a half years is a huge amount of personal time to have dedicated to trying to create a new self-sustaining online community. I'm in awe that you perservered for so long -- nobody can say you didn't give it your best shot, that's for sure. I completely understand your reasons for wanting to move on to new things. Hopefully someone will take up the reins, but if not, it's still been an enjoyable experience for all of us at SciScoop, and we all thank you.

Looking for political forums? Check out "The World Forum".


This has been a spectacular website! (4.00 / 1) (#8)
by jkauzlar on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 11:47:10 AM PST
Like another user said, and which applies to me as well, SciScoop IS my source of science news and I check it out almost daily through my Slashdot box and actually read the site about once or twice a week. I'd try to convince you to stick with it, but you seem serious about moving along; I write about 3/4 of the stories for Mathforge.net and I know how you feel, about wishing it would take off on its own into something self-perpetuating, like Slashdot, because its a BIG commitment even to write a story a day to keep the site up-to-date, and I know you usually write more than that.

I hope someone else will carry on the torch as wonderfully as you've done. I think the value of your efforts is in having all of the top stories from those websites you mentioned compressed into one space (not to mention freely available and updated daily) alongside your insightful and entertaining commentary. Good luck on your future endeavors.



Yeah, sure.... (4.00 / 1) (#29)
by pythor on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 01:18:54 AM PST
You're just trying to get out of your promise to make a follow up story to The Making of a Fingerprint or Flower.

OK... just kidding. I'd be seriously sorry to see the site go, and almost as sorry to see rickyjames go. I don't contribute a lot, mostly because I don't have the time. I do try to make time to vote on stories in the queue.

Of course, from the comments already here, it's a moot point. SciScoop will go on. Just wanted to put my two cents in.



NOOOOO!!! (3.00 / 1) (#7)
by Joe on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 11:09:14 AM PST
I'm sorry to see this thread. I feel partially to blame, I'm a LONG TIME lurker on your website, I've been coming here on my lunch hour for a long time now (maybe a year or so?). I'm sure there are alot of people like me. I've never posted or never really done anything, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate what you've done. IN fact, I had to create an account to post this! Like the others, I respect your decision, Hopefully you will rethink. Sciscoop is a great site, we need more like what you've done, not less!



It's been great. (3.00 / 1) (#14)
by rgoshko on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:25:10 AM PST
It has been a great 2.5 years Ricky, I'm sorry to see you go, I guess I am like most others that visit your site, a science consumer, not much of a provider.
"In space, no one can hear you fart."


Aw gee, Ricky... (none / 0) (#4)
by gypsysoul on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 03:49:03 AM PST
not that I didn't know this was coming, and not that you aren't exhausted from demands of work and the site... but what fun it's been to find such a range of topics and watch how the site's evolved.

Can't wait to see where the dream leads you :-)



Will be sorely missed (none / 0) (#5)
by Anonymous on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 06:53:22 AM PST
Like another reader above, SciScoop *IS* my main source of science news. A former physics major turned computer programmer, I still like peeking in daily to see what's going on in the world that still fascinates me. Can't tell you the number of times I've discovered something on SciScoop that caused me to forward the link to a friend.

For my own part, I'm more of a science news consumer than content provider, so I apologize for being a non-contributor. It will come as no surprise that I also don't post on Slashdot, or just about any other news aggregation service.

Your efforts are appreciated and SciScoop's absense will be noted in my daily reading. Thanks for your efforts!



wondered when (none / 0) (#6)
by mtigges on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 08:05:47 AM PST
I always had the feeling it was coming. Thanks Ricky. I tried off and on to add content since the submission queue opened. I wish more others had too.



"Jen dao mei!" (none / 0) (#9)
by janietta on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 03:04:44 PM PST
And thanks for all your efforts.



  • Bao-Bei by rickyjames, 03/29/2005 06:07:32 PM PST (none / 0)
Keep Going (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 03:35:11 PM PST
I am one of those who browse over from slashdot. Your site is a great read. I vist regularly. And would miss the site it if were to disappear. Btw: your site has to have the most eye grabbing headlines for each story you post. That's a great writing skill you have.



how bout a forum (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 10:01:41 PM PST
I can't say that I can help by paying the bills / posting all that much science news, but i sure can offer my webspace to anybody that is still wanting something like this to be around. I currently am starting a forums website, for lots of differnt topics, and science was one of the original intentions. It won't be sciscoop (which I know we all will miss), but hopefully it will be somewhere for refugees to hang around discuss the latest science news. Its not brand new, it might have been around for a week :P I'm not going to post the link unless you people give me pemission to do so... spam < * So if you people are interested, just say so (in here)



So long... (none / 0) (#13)
by Anonymous on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 01:35:36 AM PST
..and thanks for all the fish.



Oh... darn, said the fish (none / 0) (#15)
by MattHat on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:45:49 AM PST
It was not until I read this headline on my site that I realised how much I depended on this site for the good science headlines.

I am not sure I could commit to taking over completely but I would be willing to head up a consortium of some kind.

I can generally be found at http://mad-den.co.uk if anyone wants to talk about this.



Every end is a beginning. (none / 0) (#17)
by Chronosphere on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 04:43:50 AM PST
I didnt know most of the work was from only one person. I have to tell that SCISCOOP is my Homepage, and that if it dissapears, I will certainly miss it. But I wish you the best in your new enterprises. I have to tell that if English was my first language, I would have liked to continue your work!



A lurker who's willing to subscribe (none / 0) (#20)
by vanyel on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:21:52 AM PST
Are there enough of us to let you make it at least a part time job so you don't have to do it in your "free" time?



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