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Steorn Challenges the First Law of Thermodynamics
By StevenKrivit, Section Events
Posted on Fri Aug 25, 2006 at 12:47:33 PM PST

Physics "Free energy" and magnetic motor claims attract new attention and skepticism. Irish company Steorn issues challenge to conventional science.

by Steven Krivit

"I think the point that we're making is that this publicity stunt, and it is a publicity stunt, has one direct aim, and that is to grab the attention of the scientific world really to get them angry enough to have to deal with this.

The question we're asking is an honest question to the world of science: either prove this works or prove it doesn't work - whatever you find, and to also make absolutely sure the answer is put into the public domain. As far as we're concerned, we're not asking a question we don't know the answer to." - Sean McCarthy, Chief Executive Officer of Steorn


As far as I know, there is no such thing as free energy, or magnetic motor energy. Science textbooks make it clear that such talk is nonsense, the equivalent of perpetual motion. And no inventor has come forward so far to physically demonstrate to the public that science has been incomplete in its understanding and explanation of the physical universe.

Last week, principles from Steorn, an Irish technology company posted a full-page ad in The Economist magazine challenging the world's physicists to a duel: Come test our machine, and prove us right or wrong.

"Our position on this is that we don't expect anybody in the general public to believe us at this point," McCarthy said. "We're just asking people to believe the process [of the audit.] We're saying that at the end of this process, the answer is going to be published whether we're right or wrong."

They are inviting a panel of scientists to audit their claims, with virtually no restrictions, except to publicly disclose their findings once the audit is complete.

Without a doubt, the manner in which Steorn has proceeded is unconventional. But then, so is its claim: energy with no apparent material source.

Naturally, it makes no sense for them to proceed in a conventional scientific manner. The peer review process is grossly incapable of handling unconventional claims and paradigm-challenging research.

Yesterday, I had the opportunity to speak with Sean McCarthy, Chief Executive Officer of Steorn, and ask every question that I could think of. My conclusion at the end of our talk is that I have no idea what to make of all this. However, I can say that McCarthy was very direct and forthcoming with me.

Steorn has issued a bold challenge to the physics establishment, and this establishment will not acquiesce without a fight.

I predict that none of us will know whether this claim is valid for months, perhaps years. If the company's panel of experts determines that the claim demonstrates new science, the remaining question is, Who will pay attention to it and who will ignore it?

Introduction to the interview and two sound clips (2:47 minutes)
http://newenergytimes.com/Audio/2006Steorn-McCarthyIntro-Aug24.mp3

Full interview, (51 minutes, includes introduction)
http://newenergytimes.com/Audio/2006Steorn-McCarthyFull-Aug24.mp3

Steorn Challenges the First Law of Thermodynamics | 6 comments (6 topical, 0 hidden)

Perpetual Hype? (5.00 / 1) (#1)
by sciencebase on Tue Aug 29, 2006 at 05:15:51 AM PST
Does anyone else feel that this is nothing more than a PR campaign to get this company a sh*tload of hits to their site. Surely, they can't be serious that they're creating energy for free

Quoting Steorn's Sean McCarthy: "What we have developed is a way to construct magnetic fields so that when you travel round the magnetic fields, starting and stopping at the same position, you have gained energy."

Sounds like any number of crank stories that get posted to sciscoop and quickly debunked and junked.

Any comments...?

For more of David's work check out his personal Science News site.



Peer Irrelevant (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by sciencebase on Tue Aug 29, 2006 at 11:12:00 PM PST
POSTED ON BEHALF OF Wayne Lanier, PhD, Pacbell:

I see no reason why we should try to "prove" Steorn's claim; or, why we should try to "disprove" their claim. Real science just does not work that way. Whether or not "traditional peer-review science" votes for or against them is not the point. It is up to them to openly publish their results for review and discussion.

Their alternative is to make a product and sell it. Presumably, if they have an energy-producing device they can manufacture and sell it. If they have a source of energy that really works, it is irrelevant whether they get votes from sceptics. This is, after all, not a bogus "cancer cure" that might kill innocent patients. It is a testable device. If one customer finds it works, then that customer will tell another and - without any doubt at all - customers will beat a path to their door.

So, why do they need to go through this "test us" charade? It serves no purpose, except to suggest they are fundamentally dishonest.

Wayne Lanier, PhD



PERPETUUM MOBILE (none / 0) (#5)
by erich knight on Wed Sep 13, 2006 at 09:41:11 PM PST
Whats New by Bob Parks at UMd had this to say:

4. PERPETUUM MOBILE: "ALL GREAT TRUTHS BEGIN AS BLASPHEMIES."
This is the slogan of Steorn, a Dublin company that is assembling
a jury of scientists to evaluate a device using moving permanent
magnets to produce free energy. WN has exposed so many of these
devices in the past that it gets depressing. So this time we
examined the slogan instead. It's from George Bernard Shaw's
Anajanska [1919], but the full quote must have been been lost.
We've found the full quote: "All great truths begin as
blasphemies, but all blasphemies do not become great truths."

--------------------
Erich J. Knight




  • Nice one by sciencebase, 09/14/2006 01:26:45 AM PST (none / 0)
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